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Ruckus ICX untagged vlan port config

I have been working with Brocade ICX and now Ruckus ICX for a few years now. They are awesome switches.

I was asked a couple of times about something that was happening when someone would try and set the untagged or access vlan on a port. They would get this error:

error – port ethe x/x/x are not member of default vlan

The reason we were getting this error is because other vlans were attached to port as either untagged or tagged. To put a port into a vlan other than default as ‘untagged’ we need to make sure no other vlans are bound to that port. To do this we can check what vlans are attached to the port. In this scenario my default vlan is 999. It would be 1 on a switch that it was not manually changed on.

switch#show vlan br eth 1/1/3

Port 1/1/3 is a member of 2 VLANs

VLANs 32 48

Untagged VLAN : 999

Tagged VLANs : 32 48

Great, so now we know its untagged 999 (default) but tagged those 2 other ports. We need to remove the tags of 32 and 48 on this port before we can add it untagged into vlan 16 – which is the goal

switch#config t

switch(config)#vlan 32

switch(config-vlan-32)#no tag eth 1/1/3

switch(config-vlan-32)#vlan 48

switch(config-vlan-48)#no tag eth 1/1/3

Voice-vlan is cleared on port 1/1/3

switch(config-vlan-48)#

switch(config-vlan-48)#exit
switch(config)#vlan 16

switch(config-vlan-16)#unt eth 1/1/3

Added untagged port(s) ethe 1/1/3 to port-vlan 16.

switch(config-vlan-16)#exit

switch(config)#exit

switch#show vlan br eth 1/1/3

Port 1/1/3 is a member of 1 VLANs

VLANs 16

Untagged VLAN : 16

Tagged VLANs :

 

Thats it! now we are untagged or access in vlan 16. But wait! what if we wanted to have it be a trunk port to allow vlans 32/48 and be native 16. Then we would use the ‘Dual port’ command with the modification of the untagged vlan like this:

dual mode 16   — means untagged 16, but allow whatever vlans are tagged to pass. Of course vlans 16,32,48 would need to be tagged on the port first. I will write another entry about that.

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Brocade MGMT Vlan

I recently installed quite a few Brocade 6450 switches. Great switches by the way, easy to use, very full CLI, great hardware. Most of Brocades (given its a L3 switch) switches support both routing code and switching code. I mostly deploy the Routing code, just my preference. But, in this scenario the 6450 was being deployed for a very small classroom, and no need to setup the routing interface, etc. so the instructions are for a switch running Switching code – you can check VIA show version command.

In this case we have a very specific vlan for management of networking gear, so I need the IP/GW to be on the vlan – in this case vlan 255. Below is how

Lets first create the vlan in CLI:

config t

vlan 255 name MGMT
 tagged ethe 1/2/1   (My uplink port)
 management-vlan
 ip address 10.44.255.100 255.255.255.0
 default-gateway  10.44.255.1 1

Lets run over a few things here.

  • First the vlan has to be tagged on a port, or untagged to actually show up in the config. Here I am tagging my uplink port 1/2/1
  • The management-vlan command has to be used on the Vlan you want for management, otherwise its the default vlan setup in the switch which by default is 1.
  • the default gateway commands needs the metric of the IP at the end. You can specify a value from 1 – 5. There is no default. The software uses the gateway with the lowest metric.

HP vs Cisco Vlan trunking

Whenever I talk to networking people about integrating or replacing Cisco switches with HP they always talk about how difficult it was to get them to pass vlan info. This is because the terminology is totally different between the two.

In the Cisco world a “Trunk” port will pass all vlan tags by default. What does this mean? It means that the port can accept/pass IP packets with different Vlan tags. Basically the trunk port is a member of every vlan, and therefore will pass traffic from every vlan its a member of. In HP the word Trunk means link aggregation example is LACP. Basically taking 2 or more links and combining them. HP uses the phrase “tagged”.

So what is a VLAN tag?

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The “Vlan ID” is a 12-bit value in the IP header of the Ethernet frame that specifies which vlan that frame belongs, and thus virtually separates traffic.

So to configure a port as a trunk in Cisco the command is “switchport mode trunk”. This will allow the port to access every vlan , and understand/pass the frames with any tag.

In HP world you would “tag” multiple vlans on a single port. The “tag” command basically means that the port can pass/understand frames in those “tagged” vlans on that port. So lets say we have 2 vlans, and we want a switch to pass frames on both vlans to another port, then we would configure the port as tagged in both Vlans. Commands would be:

int 24

tagged vlan 120,140

Now that port will accept tags from both vlans and pass them along.

 

Access ports or Untagged

An access port in Cisco is a port who’s traffic will be tagged by the switch for the vlan the port is set to access. For example if the command on the port is “Switchport access vlan 120” then all untagged (default) traffic will be tagged for vlan 120 by the switch. This is done because the host itself is not tagging frames, but sending everything untagged.

In HP this access port would be “untagged”. This means that the traffic leaving the port will come in untagged, but will be tagged with vlan X by the switch. So the command – “untagged vlan 120” means all traffic will be in vlan 120.

Commands:

Trunk ports

Trunk (cisco)

int gig 1/0/24

switchport mode trunk

exit

Trunk (HP)

int 24

tagged 120,140

exit

Access ports (this port is in this vlan)

Access (cisco)

int gig 1/0/24

switchport mode access

switchport access vlan 120

Access (HP)

int 24

untagged 120